VCTF-U4E-SterlingFlood
>> Monday, March 21, 2005
After about 5 minutes of flooding, the water does shut itself off, opening the surface of the "ocean" to travel by boat or hovercraft - but watch out for falling apples! After a little more time, the fruit basket that hangs above the sink breaks and dumps its content, creating floating islands (and cover to hide behind) when you're crossing that open sea.
There are all sorts of weapons and pickups hidden all around the board, and it is a large board, so be prepared for a good bit of exploration to learn the lay of the land. And while a large board does imply a larger playercount, don't despair thinking that you're going to have a hard time finding targets; with the implementation of the U4E weapons, especially the IAM (gravity gun, for pole-vaulting yourself -- learn this technique!) you'll be flying from one end of the board to the other in a matter of moments. And even if you can't master such special travel techniques, there are vehicles-a-plenty on this board, even though you have to wait a bit to get the Mantas and boats which float on the surface of the water.
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 Rank: Administration Groups: Administration Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 242 Location: United States | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOILERS BELOW * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * What makes SterlingFlood so cool? A little primer on how best to use Unreal4Ever weapons to get around in SterlingFlood: You start out in the bottom of your team's side of the kitchen sink, and since the water is turned on, TAKE NOTE of where the weapons are located (especially the BFG). You'll want to remember these later because they'll be too far underwater to swim to easily. Later, grab the RiftPad from on top of the spoon, on top of the frying pan (Follow the "Grenade icons" to get to the "armoury"). Use this to open portals to jump to the pickup spots you've taken note of - this will save you and your team a lot of effort while keeping you stocked with some incredibly powerful weapons, primarily the Airblast, BFG, and Railgun. Oh, and if you look hard enough you might find the Hellsaw somewhere, too  By the way, don't worry about the Mantas and boats at first - you can't get them out of the sink until it fills up anyway. (Although I could see you using the IAM to throw the mantas onto the counter, once they get close...) Once you've found the "armoury" on top of the highest upturned cup(s), start taking advantage of the IAM's gravity control - especially to let yourself down from such a huge height. Practice with this weapon, and you will get far. Fast. Although you might miss it, the Fleshbomb Rifle is "hiding" at the tip of the frying pan handle. So you snipers out there, go crazy. There ARE more stashes of FBR ammo in key spots, but I'll let you find those. There's a lot more to do with the IAM, so I'm not done talking about it, yet. You can use it to throw the loose items on top of the counter around, and these make decent (and wickedly FUN) weapons when they get moving. While you unfortunately don't get credit for the kill, they're more satisfying tthan regular kills, IMHO. Be especially careful with the giant razorblade - I sliced myself in half with a 450-damage "oopsie" once. And don't waste too much time playing craps with the dice, but do feel free to create mini-barriers by moving them around. (FYI: There's a forcefield around the flags that prevents players from putting objects or vehicles ON the flagbase since that would be cheating.)You might notice the Dollbombs "hovering" off the side of the countertop. Those are NOT the real pickups -- follow their arrows (yes, OFF the side of the counter!) to find them. But don't make a leap of faith; it pays to be prepared. While there are several ways to get them, I find it easiest to just use the IAM to catch myself and drop onto the ledge below. There are teleporters to bring you back, because I found it annoying to climb back up with the gravgun. The other special use for the IAM in this weapon will get you into the shock tank, and if you do it right you might gain a pseudo-invicibility, as well. You can tell that the tank is trapped underneath a "U4E shotglass". Again, the easiest way around this is to lift the glass off with the IAM. But do it only a little bit! Then you can sneak under it and let the glass settle on top of you. The tank has enough power to push the glass around, and with its special shield-pulse attack, you can still deal damage while protected inside it. If you feel especially plucky, try to sneak the UFO underneath the glass! There's one Raptor available at ground-level so that it's easier for the bots to fly around, and if that's taken there's always a lift taking you to the top of the "air base". However you'll quickly find that this lift is painfully slow; look around for other ways to get on it, and think IAM, Airblast, or Katana. While you're flying around, you might notice there's a Leviathan that's STUCK inside a mug, one for each base. This is not a design flaw. It is easy to get it out by simpling opening a couple of rifts with the Riftpad. Note, however, that you want to be careful while placing the exit rift; don't place it up in near the "armoury" because then it'll be stuck up THERE instead of in the cup. Don't miss the QSG that has been hidden in plain sight next to the "air base" (where the UFOs are). If you haven't figured it out by now, a quick teleport from the Katana will get you nicely inside there! And there's a super-shield pickup for a reward, as well! I decided that the Locust hoverboard was a little powerful, mostly because a single user can carry the flag on it, so I specially designed the toaster to hold it. Yes, it makes it harder to use, but it's well worth the little bit of effort needed to get it out. You can see that the toaster's CANCEL button is blinking (I have a toaster just like this, although mine doesn't blink ) Ideally, I planned for users to get inside the toaster (IAM-jump up there) and fire a Tomahawk missle out to push the button. You could also use the Railgun, although it would be hard/impossible to "see" button  Or, if you already had a flying vehicle, just shoot the button and trade one vehicle for the other when it pops up.That's about it. There are a few more hidden things here & there around the board that are your responsibility to find. So good hunting! | |||
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Rank: Administration Groups: Administration Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 242 Location: United States | Various SterlingFlood conversations I've found around the 'net: Name: :TsT:hawkwind Message: another great kitchen drama from WinkyBoy! a sink that fills and boats that go, really puts a new twist to vctf. bots don't like deep water.... gj! Name: Winkyboy Message: Thanks, Hawkwind! Yeah, this is DEFINITELY the best SinkPack board out there, now. I'm proud enough to put out the challenge that it's the best "giant map" in existance, too smile -- even though as you say, the bots do not like deep water. Not much can be done about that, nor do they navigate with the boats very much. But besides that, they play very well, I think! Be on the lookout for the next Winkyboy production -- it's going to be another ground-breaking production! | |||
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| Rank: Guest Groups: Guest Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 104 |  when i try to play i get this message:UT2004 Build UT2004_Build_[2005-02-15_17.02] OS: Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600) CPU: GenuineIntel Unknown processor @ 2603 MHz with 759MB RAM Video: Intel(R) 82865G Graphics Controller (3889) Failed to enter C:\UT2004\Maps\VCTF-U4E-SterlingFlood.ut2: Can't find file for package 'ONSBPTextures' History: UGameEngine::Init <- br="" fmallocwindows::free="" initengine=""> | |||
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Rank: Administration Groups: Administration Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 242 Location: United States | TELL me about it.  I'd love to play them with other people myself... but the server list only shows what maps are running on the server at the time you're looking. So many servers, so many players, so many boards... you'd think the Sink stuff would appear a little more often.Here's another way to find servers that have my maps on them: Browse to the UT2004 stats page and do a search for "-SPAC-" or "SterlingFlood" or any of my other map names. You'll be shown a list of recent matches with my maps in them. Keep clicking down into the details until you find a server IP address, and then click that to join that server. Chances are that mapvote will be on, and you'll be able to vote for a Winky creation when the board changes. This isn't a comprehensive list of all the times my creations have been played, of course, because it only records from servers that are posting such information, but it helps. | |||
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| Rank: Guest Groups: Guest Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 104 | wow. Just wow. It's no wonder this won the contest. Yeah it is brutal on the FPS, dragging mine from a regular (playable) 30-40, to about TEN! Couple things: 1. You should have put the unlimited IAM in it. Too much copol stuff to do to be sitting around waiting for your IAM to cool down! 2. This isn't consistent enough to take out, so I hope you leave it cause it's awesome fun, but when you grab hold of that big razor, and lay it down flat, you can get on one side then grab the other with the IAM and move left or right (don't throw it up, you won't stay on it!) This way you can go "Razor surfing"  That is a hell of a lot of fun. Even if it is hard as hell to do. Congratulations on winning the PSP, this is definitely deserving. | |||
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Rank: Administration Groups: Administration Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 242 Location: United States | Thanks, Thunderstrike! Very much  Yeah, I wound up getting the same framerate when I used my backup computer to test it out... I certainly should have done so well before the contest deadline, so I could have released a better version. But, I am going to redo it ASAP (when my laptop gets back from repair) and clean up the FPS.I'm planning on taking out a bunch of staticmeshes and replacing them with one that looks like a bunch; for example, all those books on the shelves do NOT need to be individual SMs. I've also got a couple of other things to remove that aren't necessary, and then I'm going to add some more antiportalActors, zone portals, etc. The layout of the board IS going to be difficult to optimize, but I'll see what I can do. I wasn't aware that we could put the unlimited IAM in, as a mapper, so I hadn't even considered that - but (you probably already know this) U4E has a mutator that you can just replace the Assault Rifle with the unlimited IAM. I didn't know about that trick with the razorblade! Cool - I'll have to try it! Did you try flying around with the UFO underneath the shotglass? (I DID increase the shotglass mass since last I did that, so I might just have broken that ability, but if it's still in there, it's tons of fun...) Thanks again, Thunderstrike! Now, if only I can get some company out there to see things your way so I can get paid to do this kind of thing all day... | |||
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| Rank: Guest Groups: Guest Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 104 | I couldn't get the UFO under it. But I did get into the Paladin there. That's fun. The bots don't know enough to get rid of the glass so it's an excellent iding spot. You just drive around with this giant forcefield like thing around you. Yeah I would love to see a cleaned up version of this. I want to be able to play it, not just watch it. Hopefully you'll be able to do it. It'll still be a gigantic map though. | |||
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| Rank: Guest Groups: Guest Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 104 | Congrats on winning the u4e contest. Enjoy ur new PSP! | |||
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| Rank: Guest Groups: Guest Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 104 | Can I make a suggestion? Okay, well when you're going to the flag, there's a long stretch of counter and then there's a huge dropoff that leads to the floor below. It's where you put the Dollbombs. Can you make a blocking volume around there that will repel the GoodKarma objects? (balls, dice, razors) It's always a pain to lose one of your happytime fun toys to the Great Abyss. And the sinks, too. The razors sink like stones but the dice and balls float so that isn't a problem. Or, just make the razors float too or something. If that's not possible, or too difficult to be practical, could you at least make the balls/dice/razors get destroyed and respawn when thrown down the abyss? The cups should be immune to this though. The funniest thing I did was go and grab the Red team's cup that was overtop of their Paladin, and heave it over my head and into the sink, watching it fall down to the depths below. | |||
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| Rank: Guest Groups: Guest Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 104 | The problem with that is, it's a big map (20+ megs) that requires a big mod (50+ megs), and to boot, it's a mod no one plays online. But I'm going to tell you what I told someone else getting down on their work cause no one played it online. Online is not the end all and be all of gaming, and it's idiotic to think it is. Just because people aren't playing it online doesn't mean people aren't playing it period. There's a problem with the riftpad thing, and using it to get the leviathan out, and the razor out of the sink etc. I can't find it. | |||
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| Rank: Guest Groups: Guest Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 104 | Hey, I know this might not be so revelent to the topic of dicussion, but I am in the process of DLing Sterlingflood at the moment.. So I needed something to do while I DL 21 MB on a 26kbp connection >.> Question is.. I remember a custom DM level for the original unreal where you was in a HUGE bathroom, was that you Winky that made that level? and from the Screenies the map looks really good, considering the everyday mundain content.. I am impressed I also have a request. If you WAS the one that made that level perhaps drop a few months into remaking it for UT2k4 eh? *nudge Nudge* Been playing unreal since original unreal a good six or seven years ago, never found something as original as a giant bathroom level... it was particularly fun to play with u4e.. which I remember being around back then as well Countess Blitz Lady of Lag friendly Rocket Launcher~ | |||
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Rank: Administration Groups: Administration Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 242 Location: United States | Hi, thanks for stopping by Countess Well, I've never authored a giant bathroom level, but there have been many of those created. I did a quick search but didn't find any on Mapraider, Nalicity, and UnrealPlayground -- but I know that they're out there somewhere. I've currently got far too many things in my Unreal world going on to take on any new projects. In fact, I'm behind on some commitments to mods, like Lawdogs and HerzogZwei. BUT if I miraculously am able to clear my Unreal plate, I'll look into the bathroom level for you. Just remember there's stress on the word miraculous there... I hope you've already downloaded U4E - that's another 50meg download!... I sympathize with the modem connection; I've been there... | |||
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| Rank: Guest Groups: Guest Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 104 | can i make a suggestion?? I love the look of this map but I have a latop that has a bad graphics card (although its a year old) so the map plays really slowly.. so i thought that you could take the whole of the floor used at the edge of the map for performances sake (not looks) cuz the map looks brilliant i like the design of the level just like your other sinkpack levels. And any way, its the fun that counts, not just the looks | |||
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| Rank: Newbie Groups: Member Joined: 4/28/2005 Posts: 3 Location: United Kingdom | Hey i just registered! hey id love to test the maps i tried this map again and it worked on a playable (FOR ME) average 7 fps but just one thing, the times i have tried it the karma toys didnt work any thing you can do to help me? | |||
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| Rank: Guest Groups: Guest Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 104 | This looks amazing. But if it's anything like graveyard hills, it'll be really laggy. I'll still play it though. | |||
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Rank: Administration Groups: Administration Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 242 Location: United States | Hey BobFungus! Thanks for stopping by! Let's see... first off, I'm glad that SterlingFlood works well for you. I've got a revision in the works that should improve framerates for everyone a little more, too -- just FYI. You can find a link for it (beta) over on the Unreal4Ever forums. I think I already gave away the SterlingFlood secrets on the first page of this thread, but as I'm lazy and already typing... ...Grab the Riftpad (on top of the spoon, on top of the frying pan), and create a portal from inside the cup to somewhere else outside. Try to place it somewhere that the Leviathan WON'T get stuck when it drives through. I tried to be a little devious in creating ways to use the U4E weapons  Oh, and sorry about the framerate on GraveyardHills -- I'll fix that too. That'll be a lot easier as I'm SURE it's related to the number of  s in that board. Each large pile of s is like ... 150 or 200 of them, and there are a lot of faces on those s... I know the engine is supposed to handle staticmeshes nicely, but there's a limit I guess, too! | |||
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| Rank: Guest Groups: Guest Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 104 | The karma weapons STILL don't work on my cmputer, it is as if the are too heavy for the iam and the dont move at all...COMPLETELY static | |||
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| Rank: Guest Groups: Guest Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 104 | awr thanks m8 | |||
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| Rank: Member Groups: Member Joined: 11/29/2004 Posts: 14 Location: France | I have that version of U4E. Considering the file size i suppose it's not the latest version. Anyway sterlig flood doesn't work. UT is asking for a u4e3 file. I will download the latest version of u4e on their site. | |||
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| Rank: Newbie Groups: Member Joined: 4/28/2005 Posts: 3 Location: United Kingdom | I tuned up the physics and yes the karma toys do work!!! | |||
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Rank: Administration Groups: Administration Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 242 Location: United States | Wow! Thanks for the HUGEly detailed review, molodiets! I learned a lot from this review - the most from any review anyone's given. I feel surprised by some of the things you've said here... But I'll just respond in-line, below:
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i found nearly all the weapons (except the hellsaw)
I agree with many of your comments about weapon placement, and will move this in the next revision (of which, if you didn't know, there's a link to a beta version in the U4E forum's thread about this map. It has improved framerates, but not ideal yet)
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I got the QSG. The only way to get it AFAK, is the bug gun. Is there another way?
I didn't think you could use the Bug gun! huh! Yes, I use the teleport function of the Katana (alt fire).
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I got the leviathan. You need a rift pad portal to take it out of the mug. The technic is not flawless.
This is correct; it matters GREATLY where you place the other rift opening. Try to choose a very flat, wall-like area. DEFINITELY NOT the pot full of water
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The toaster works even thou it's not necessary to get out with the hoverboard (which is indeed a real spoiller)
ARrgh. You realized that, too! Yeah, I didn't full realize just exactly HOW HIGH that Locust can jump, even though Gel warned me! I've already addressed this in the next revision.
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I got the Paladin. ... I've been unable to use the IAM to move the glass enough.
I'm puzzled by that. If you were able to move ANY of the karma-objects, you should have been able to move them with the IAM... Were you able to lift any other karma object with the IAM?
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I got the doll bomb by "landing" nearby with my raptor. But i don't think it's worth wasting a raptor for 3 dollbombs. I'm usually not useless at IAM climbing but that was really too hard for me.
I agree about the Raptor, but I find it very easy to catch myself with the IAM while falling. I'm suspecting a framerate issue, since you mentioned that while pole-vaulting...
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I did pole jumped across whole maps with the IAM but this map is a bit too cumbersome.
This is another surprising comment to me; as long as you don't try to cross the "ocean", there's always something to pole-vault with, and it's incredibly speedy for me. Sometimes I cross the sink, but yes you have to do it carefully otherwise you're swimming.
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The map "lags", my frame rate colapses when i play it. That kinda spoils the gameplay. The acrobatics requested by the map are much harder with that laggy impression.
I'm working on this... this was the worst aspect of the map...
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The underwater weapons are no longer accessible after a few minutes. ... In addition, for me, rifts quickly disapear. Lots of weapons quickly get out of reach.
I did plan on the underwater weapons to not be accessible, on purpose. The Railgun just isn't fun if someone had the ability to constantly shoot it, and it's far too easy to capture the flag with the Airblast. The rifts last for about 2 minutes each, for me, so I had THOUGHT that would be a fine answer. Perhaps there's some U4E error or setting that's causing your portals to be short-lived...?
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I rise a little, painfully, slowly but finally, i always run out of ammo before getting out of the sink and fall back.
Apparently a U4E "feature". I tend to use the boost-pads as a kick-start.
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Is this map supposed to be played online or offline?
Ideally, on a LAN. You're right about the bots; they get confused by the paths across the water, among other things.
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The first time i played it i found almost no weapon.
I will do a full makeover on the weapon placement.
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i think more open spaces would be welcome. I tend to lost myself in that maze. It's also, for me a necessity in order to AIM polljump effectively.
Hmm.. There's really three, rather-distinct "highways" across the road areas, and two across the water, and I think if you had a higher framerate (again, I'm fixing that), you'd find it a lot easier to pole-vault pretty much ANYWHERE across the board. As for the boats, if you pile multiple people into one of them, they're actually very powerful, and the Vipers are pretty danged fast if you speed-boost twice across the sink...
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That's the end of my detailed review. Do what you want with it. You can even delete it.
No way - this is incredibly helpful and I'll use it to fix the next version. Once again, THANK YOU, molodiets! I appreciate this and all the links you've been finding for vehicles, too! P.S. I'll add the other links you PM'ed me as soon as I can. Gotta get back to work for now... | |||
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| Rank: Member Groups: Member Joined: 11/29/2004 Posts: 14 Location: France | I tested sterling tide. Good job with the health vials.
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The underwater weapons are no longer accessible after a few minutes. ... In addition, for me, rifts quickly disapear. Lots of weapons quickly get out of reach.
I did plan on the underwater weapons to not be accessible, on purpose. The Railgun just isn't fun if someone had the ability to constantly shoot it, and it's far too easy to capture the flag with the Airblast. The rifts last for about 2 minutes each, for me, so I had THOUGHT that would be a fine answer. Perhaps there's some U4E error or setting that's causing your portals to be short-lived...? About the map, i understand your objection. My portals last as long as yours. But when you spawn in the sink and get the airblast, there is extremelly little chance that you live long enough to use it to move quicker. It's often extremely long to get out of the sink. You get bogered in the water. All the more so if you tried to pick up the BFG (which spawn later). When you have it you're already stuck in the water. So i generally don't use it cause when i get out there are enemies everywhere and i don't have the time to shoot. I think the BFG is not really a spoiller with such a landscape. Its radius is limited by the numerous obstacles players can hide behind. Sincerely i don't know where to shoot at (far enough to not kill myself but aiming far is not easy and the missile is slow). I agree that railgun can be used from the sink. But i think there should be airblasts and BFG somewhere else in the map. (I noticed an empty mug near the toaster in the corner.) I think there is several conceptions. 1) You can accept that players use U4E weapons to move faster to the flag and back. In the map WGS bedroom i am able to reach the oposite flag from my base in one leap (with the iam) because it's opened not cumbersome and a bit higher that the battlefield. It won't be possible in your map but maybe more open spaces could enlarge my leaps. Then, you could provide easily reached airblasts with ammos , hellsaw... that let you travel over big distances with the flag. I'm afraid that could lead to easy cap because bot won't be as skillfull as players at flying to the base and back. 2) You can let players reach the base easily but cause them hardship as they come back. Example: airblast with limited ammos, IAM polljumping will reduce the speed of the return to base. 3) You can (as you did) reduce or nearly annihilated all the transport possibilities offered by U4E hellsaws, airblasts and AIMs. But i think it's a bit extreme.
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i found nearly all the weapons (except the hellsaw)
I agree with many of your comments about weapon placement, and will move this in the next revision (of which, if you didn't know, there's a link to a beta version in the U4E forum's thread ) I'm really upset with the lots of ammos availlable on the shelves near the closets. It would be such a good sniping point if there was lightning or FBR or avril or turrets. Intead of that, there are ammos for transports (airblast is more a transport medium than a weapon) that are no longer available. Considering i needed a flying vehicle to get there, it's not well paid.
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The toaster works even thou it's not necessary to get out with the hoverboard (which is indeed a real spoiller)
ARrgh. You realized that, too! Yeah, I didn't full realize just exactly HOW HIGH that Locust can jump, even though Gel warned me! I've already addressed this in the next revision.) OK you fixed that. Good. I still think the tomahawk should be available there
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I got the Paladin. ... I've been unable to use the IAM to move the glass enough.
I'm puzzled by that. If you were able to move ANY of the karma-objects, you should have been able to move them with the IAM... Were you able to lift any other karma object with the IAM? I finally succeeded to lift the glass enough with the IAM and get the paladin. I still prefer the other methods though.
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I rise a little, painfully, slowly but finally, i always run out of ammo before getting out of the sink and fall back.
Apparently a U4E "feature". I tend to use the boost-pads as a kick-start. I retested that. Did you mess with the gravity? The boots didn't help me much but worse, it proved than even from the shelf i can't use the airblast to fly as i do in other maps. I use it as a chopper helix but whatever, wherever, i still fall. In other maps i was able to take off. Here i can't I regret the lack of sniping spots. Sniping is the best part of the game. There are some high vantage points (on cans, cereal boxes..) but you can't reach them except in raptor and when you're there there is no weapon. If only there could be turrets.  Have a look at all those splendid sniping spots. If only i could have a teleport to get there or at least a edge i could launch a grapling harpoon at (like the helsaw, or the bug gun) to hoist myself | |||
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Rank: Administration Groups: Administration Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 242 Location: United States | Well, Molodiets, I'm thinkin' you (and everyone else) will really enjoy the changes that have happened to the Sterling boards. It's been some time, but I think I've got a new beta to test. The board has undergone MASSIVE changes, so much that I've renamed it again. I don't even know if this could still be called the same board, although the layout is, at its heart, the same. It is now Sterling Sea and I used your advice pretty well, I think. Weapon placement is much more... "fun" oriented. You spawn, there's a locker with some good weapons next to you, and a little bit farther are good vehicles. The sniping points have ammo - various amounts, with matching weapons, too. Not 100% in easy reach, but I think it's quite an improvement. I'm VERY happy to announce that I have framerates ranging from 20-50 now, with an average 30-40. I peak every now and then at around 70, too. I have taken out the rising water idea, because essentially it was "extra" to the fun factor. I've reduced the surface area of the countertop as well, so there are fewer paths between flags - it was too easy to lose yourself before. However don't think that reducing the countertop means less actual playable area; this board leans much, MUCH more toward a naval-type battle. I'm trying to bring together the best ocean-going vehicles in one board, because IMHO the community out there never received them properly. Monarch, wherever he is, created some of the best vehicles for the ocean, but personally I found some problems with them. Vynum fixed the crashing-errors, and in SterlingSea, I've addressed a few issues I felt needed changing as well. CMan's Kopholus assault pack never surfaced (which I still am quite sad about), but the Vipers are still prominently in the board. And Xilver thankfully is still developing the Watercraft mod. Oh yes, and I stumbled upon the Annihilation vehicles while creating the Vehicle Index and saw a lot of potential in them, so the Hippo makes an appearance here too. Let's see... let me back up a bit: There are three UTNavy vehicles in here, resized to fit the board (they were HUGE) and renamed. The Attack Sub is now the Kraken, the mini-sub is now the Shortfin (a type of shark), and the Gunboat is now a Kingfisher. They're lots of fun, and I'll probably try to resize the rest of the Navy, so they can at least fit in regular-sized boards. I put the Dragonfly bomber in here - I always wanted that as an in-map pilotable vehicle... The Hippo has been sped up a bit, and since this is still a U4E board, I gave it the projectile from the Howitzer. I might need to tweak some stuff with it still, maybe make it faster, or give it more life, since the Howzie fire is a shorter range than its previous Rocket Launcher fire. The Hammerhead is available to fly around - I gave it a lot more life, maybe too much... ? And there are a couple of other added vehicles, changes etc. Oh, in case no one figures it out, the "blue and red shields" around the flags can be lowered by shooting the switch at each main base, so people who like Manta runs can do a few. Without further ado, I post the screenies, and go to sleep. Message me if you're interested in playing a beta of this.           | |||
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Rank: Administration Groups: Administration Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 242 Location: United States | Yup! A perfect name for the minisub, don't you thinK? I'm pretty sure I've ironed out the bugs - at least, most of the ones that really affect gameplay. I'll get back to you on what I KNOW still exists, but if you think of any bugs, let me know- | |||
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| Rank: Guest Groups: Guest Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 104 | Good name for a mini-sub provided it is fast an manueverable. In the time I played it I only found obvious things that you most likely got. The flying battleship (when it spawned and had no one in it), get in the subs and get booted out of UT, and the bots hated the ships. Just out of curiosity, are you going to patch up UTNavy or just those ships shown? Well, either way, this looks to be fun! It is so very rare to find a water based map. | |||
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| Rank: Guest Groups: Guest Joined: 5/10/2004 Posts: 104 | I think I know what you're talking about, with the hovering boats bit... although I'd really call them more like FLYING boats -- when all of a sudden a boat (usually unmanned) goes zooming straight up in the air. I don't know what causes that, but I did put in a really low blockingvolume as a kind-of ceiling in my board. I suspect it's because the Navy boats are PROBably subclassed from the Manta-type vehicles (I've got the code, but going from memory here, and I can't remember ) And the Manta has this weird side-effect of being able to vertically climb certain kinds of architecture. *shrug* The torpedos... well, they're pretty hard to escape, which makes the Kraken so particularly deadly; with its sonar, all water-classed vehicles get a highlighted box on the screen, and firing in the general area of that box sets the homing torpedo on its way. The Kraken only respawns every 2 minutes, so destroy it as soon as possible. I'm thinking I should make the surface of the water a little transparent, because the Dragonfly bomber is incredibly deadly AGAINST the Kraken. anyway, I'm up wayyy too late. | |||
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